492 Hello New Saw!

October 1, 201245 Comments

As table saws go, I’ve had an opportunity over the years to use one from each of the three body types; benchtop, contractor and cabinet. While they’re all tablesaws and do the same job, the specifications of each are very different.

Where benchtop and contractor saws are portable in their own ways, the cabinet saw is one you probably won’t be throwing in the back of a trailer or truck and hauling around from site to site. In fact, the cabinet saw is a beast of a saw and is designed with the serious hobbyist and professional woodworker in mind.

I’ve been using my granite topped Steel City cabinet saw for a couple of years now and have been loving the features and specifications that came with it. But just recently, an opportunity came up to try another make and model of cabinet saw that has some upgraded features and specifications I didn’t think we’re all that important at first, but now that its here I can’t wait to test them out and share the results with all of you.

In today’s episode I’m introducing my brand new SawStop PCS175-TGP236 1.75HP 10″ Professional Cabinet Saw. In the interest of complete transparency, the opportunity to try out this model of saw and all the accessories and upgrades that accompany it was in exchange for a sponsorship and advertising deal on my website and in the show. I’m under no obligation what-so-ever to gloss over any warts I may think the saw has as I use it over time.

www.sawstop.com

As of the time that I’m posting this episode, I haven’t had an opportunity to put the saw through it’s paces yet. But that should be remedied very shortly as we get ready to start a series of projects that will have plenty of cuts being made on the saw. Then in about 6 months, I’ll come back and give it as thorough a review of what I’ve experienced with the saw as I possibly can.

I don’t expect all of you to be as excited about this opportunity as I am, and I imagine some of you will express your opinions about it with me rather loudly. But I’m interested in hearing what your concerns are regarding the specifications when compared to other manufacturers and maybe even some of the myths you’ve heard too.

So without further delay…”Hello New Saw!”

Link for items discussed in today’s show:
SawStop 1.75HP Professional Cabinet Saw
Industrial Mobile Base
Overarm Dust Collection
Dust Collection Accessory
Zero Clearance Insert

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  1. Sean Rubino says:

    Matt! I am super excited for you. I have been considering a SawStop for some time now for many reasons. The braking feature is a big point for me since my son is very interested in woodworking and he is only nearly 3. Obviously he isn’t in the shop with me yet but he loves his play tools and he really likes watching your videos and Marc’s too. I think the main reason I am considering the SawStop is for the dust extraction. It seems to be extremely efficient. I can’t wait to see what you do with it and your upcoming projects.

    • Matt says:

      Thanks Sean,

      I’m really excited about this new saw and the features it has. The biggest upgrade over my Steel City saw is the dust collection. It’s such an important feature that I think a lot of folks overlook, almost equally or more important than the braking feature.

      There are other things that make the saw a nice upgrade too, the fence is a small step up in that there’s more travel on either side and the ease of removing the riving knife is an even bigger step up. All things that make it well worth the investment. Now the next step is to see how it performs over the coming months.

      A couple of downsides I’ll already admit too are the following. It’s much louder than the Granite topped saw, noticeably louder in fact, but not more loud than comparable models, and the other downside is that I can’t set a drink on the tabletop or do a glueup without worrying about rust! The tablesaw top is a great place for glueups in my shop!!!

  2. Eric R says:

    Wow !

  3. I love my SawStop PCS. I couldn’t be anymore happier with my saw. I’m sure you will love the saw.

    Mike

  4. Marc says:

    Congrats brother. Now shove your finger in there so we can see that bad boy in action! šŸ™‚

    • Matt says:

      Aiden keeps missing his class assignments and we may be watching a video of his finger going in just to teach him a lesson! (JUST KIDDING…PROTECTIVE SERVICES…I’d just do it enough to scare him)

  5. Dave says:

    I ordered mine this morning. I can’t wait!

  6. Bill says:

    That is so sweet dude. Congratulations on the new sponsorship and the cool new saw. No matter what anyone says about SawStop, they still make a great saw and I hope you enjoy it. And hell, now you have a back up if you forget to say “fingers and thumbs don’t be dumb”. Not that you want to test that feature anytime soon, but nice to know its there.

    Hope you have fun with it , and again, Congrats.

  7. Ben H says:

    Best T-shirt EVA! Congrats on the new saw as well. Happy for you.

    • Matt says:

      Thanks on both! Have you seen the line of Michiganawesome.com t-shirts? I’m definitely getting more for the show…I hope they have more in my size.

  8. Andrew says:

    I just unboxed my SawStop contractor saw last week and have started projects on it this weekend. I love it! Hope you enjoy yours as well, I wish mine was sponsored, I paid through the nose to get mine in Alaska! I don’t regret it at all though, great fit and finish, heavy, and I plan to build a cabinet for it, like some of the lumberjocks have done.

  9. Ben says:

    Awesome Matt! You’re in for a real treat with that saw. I purchased the same one back over the winter and I have been completely happy with it. I hope your experience will be as good as mine has been.

  10. Walt says:

    Congrats Matt, on your new sponsor. Love the saw already !! I still have the 3 hp Steel City Cabinet Saw and enjoying it. I gotta laugh at Marc’s comment that should bring those pod cast viewers in… lol
    I’m looking forward to the new projects and your review on the saw.

    Walt : )

  11. Shannon says:

    Nah we’ve all seen the finger. Be original and stick something else in there…ooh I sense a contest!

    • Matt says:

      Apparently Funny or Die already came up with something different than the hot dog…search for Funny or die Safety Saw.

  12. Kyle Barton says:

    Welcome to the Dark Side

  13. Jim says:

    Congrats Matt!

  14. John C says:

    Matt. Looking forward to the write up. Curious why you went with the 1.75hp motor and not the 3hp?

    • Matt says:

      It all came down to a lack of a 220 outlet close enough. Plus I wanted a model that I think a large chunk of the audience would consider getting because of their existing outlets and shop setup. Otherwise, I’d be all over that 3HP!!!

  15. Way to go on the new sponsor and toy. I am very much looking forward to your review. California politics aside, these saws are supposed to be top notch. And I agree with Shannon – skip the hot dog and the finger. Try something more, I dunno, Gallagher-esq. I’d love to see the safety feature fail on some broccoli. Splatter that vile weed throughout the shop. Or if all goes as intended, barely bruise it. Boring.

  16. Cal says:

    Congratulations. It looks like a very nice piece of machinery, indeed. However, my first reaction was to the name. I wouldn’t normally consider a 1 3/4 HP saw to be a “professional cabinet saw.” To me, that seems to fit more in the hybrid category. That may be nit-picking, but I’m always a bit cautious about inflated claims that may mislead the unwary consumer.

    Of course, that’s not a quality concern; it’s a marketing issue. I have no doubt this would be a great saw for the serious hobbyist or even a small cabinet shop.

  17. Rod says:

    Video? stops playing after the commercial for me, tried to download and Not Found.

  18. Alex says:

    I see a revisit of an episode of woodtalk back in the early days! That would be interesting to go back to the “great saw stop debate”. Maybe you guy could discuss and might end up with some different points of view since you have one to use now? Or is that a can of worms left unopened! šŸ™‚

    • Matt says:

      For sure we’ll probably be discussing the pros and cons of the SawStop and the other saws. I can’t wait to get some more time with this saw to try it out. So far, the half dozen to dozen cuts have been very pleasant!

  19. Ave says:

    Hi and congratulations.

    If you are going to test it with an eggplant or something, promise me to joint one face of it first. But with a light touch on the push paddles though.

    /A

  20. Jerry says:

    Matt,
    You da MAN! Congrats on the sponsorship and new saw. Whether people agree or disagree with the legal stuff surrounding the saw stop technology, there is rarely a bad comment about the top notch quality of these saws. Can’t wait to see you put it through it’s paces. And to top it off, you start with the jig I REALLY need to get off my butt and build! A table saw sled. You rock! This just really wants me to get my 1946 Unisaw restoration complete. Vintage cabinet saw and sled HERE I COME!!!

  21. Erwin B says:

    Congrats Matt on the new sponsorship! I bought a sawstop because, fundamentally, it’s a really good saw. It’s nice to know that the brake is there, but I try to use every safety practice possible when using that machine. Oh, and the dust collection… killer.

    If you’re gonna burn through that extra brake, how about trying it with something real world… like wet stock (as in home d—-t wet doug fir wet)? I’ve been told to use the bypass mode in that situation, but how wet does the wood need to be in order to set it off?

    Have fun with your new toy! You definitely deserve it!!

  22. BillG says:

    Matt,

    Are you kidding us or what?

    ” In the interest of complete transparency, the opportunity to try out this model of saw and all the accessories and upgrades that accompany it was in exchange for a sponsorship and advertising deal on my website and in the show. Iā€™m under no obligation what-so-ever to gloss over any warts I may think the saw has as I use it over time.”

    So what are the terms of this “try out”? How long do you get to keep it? Who pays for shipping each way? Do you get the opportunity to purchase it at a discount at the end of the review? Why didn’t you mention any of this in your video review?

    From your review: “And as part of this advertising deal I worked it out so I got this fantastic new saw and man, I am really, really excited about this.”

    Yeah, I bet you are. Sponsorship, ad revenue and a couple grand in equipment. You done good for yourself. So when do you have to send it back or buy it?

    You need to realize that you have made a conscious effort to put yourself in the public eye and people that don’t have experience in the craft look to you for reliable unbiased information and you have a responsibility to provide it because you have chosen to promote yourself as a source of that information.

    It’s a slippery slope you’re treading. If you’re going to do public reviews of equipment you need to put it all out up front, terms, conditions, ad value, etc. Folks don’t watch your podcast for your sponsors, they watch it because they trust you. And when you accept gifts of expensive equipment and associated sponsorships in exchange for positive reviews your credibility drops and you show your disregard for the people who trusted your advice and put you in the public eye in the first place….

    Just saying……

    • Matt says:

      Bill if you had listened to what I said during this episode I stated I would be doing a full review six months AFTER receiving the saw in my shop. This would give me a chance to use it in a real world setting and try it out as I normally would with any saw.

      At no point did I give an actual recommendation to anyone to run out and purchase the saw, nor did I go into great detail about what I thought about each and every specification of the saw. I only mentioned the obvious highlights, but never gave an opinion about them.

      I’ll share my thoughts on the saw as a whole when the six months are up and I’ve also asked the audience if they have specific questions regarding anything they’ve seen or wondered about.

      I’m very aware I have a duty to be trustworthy and honest to the audience about tools in my shop, but it’s also the audience’s responsibility to research information for themselves.

      And I’ve always been straight forward and open about when I accept tools or services in exchange for advertising or sponsorships. Contrary to popular belief I DON’T receive financial compensation ALONG with tools or services, it’s one or the other but never both!

      I’m well aware of the perceived slippery slope you mention, but as I just stated, I’ve ALWAYS been honest about my tools in exchange for sponsorship and advertising and for anyone who’s asked me which tool to purchase I prefer not to suggest a specific make or model, but only suggest features and specifications.

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