Wood Talk No. 135

June 5, 2013

On today’s show, we’re talking about Japanese chisels with Wilbur Pan, getting the most from a dust extractor, planing one side of a board, veneering, storing left-over finish, and ash for hurlys.
Wood Talk

  • Brian sent an article from the Boston Globe regarding a major tourist attraction in Plymouth, MA, a replica of the original Mayflower, is sitting in dry dock while shipwrights are trying to find exactly the right white oak, and it might miss much of the tourist season (hurting the local economy) White Oak and the Mayflower
  • Scott Meek is auctioning off a Mesquite smoother for charity to benefit OK – Mesquite smoother Ebay auction.

Around the Web

  • Andrew sent a link for a story about a guy that built a car out of wood. Wooden car from Hungary
  • Don asks “How can you watch these guys videos and not be inspired?”
  • Andy created a saw sharpening video for woodworkers – 2 1/4 hour video on YouTube called Sharpening Western Saws. This was the culmination of a blog series I’ve been writing on Lumberjocks called Saw Talk. The video is aimed at those new to saw sharpening and covers the the theory, the tools and the practice of sharpening western saws. You get to look over my shoulder as I sharpen four saws – two backsaws and two hand saws. I explain the saw sharpening process and how you apply it to different scenarios.

    Here’s the link to the post on Lumberjocks: Lumberjocks – “Saw Talk” series
    And here’s the direct link to the video on YouTube:“Sharpening Western Saws”

    I’ve made this video for charity and I’m not looking to profit personally from it in any way whatsoever. I only ask that if you find it useful, you make a donation to the charity mentioned on the Lumberjocks post and at the end of the video itself.


Jim“I just listened to #134 and found the discussion about the purported decline of the craft to be interesting. Maybe you feel like this has already been beaten to death, but a couple of other thoughts occurred to me. Short of a census, we have no real idea how many people are engaging in woodworking, but we have some surrogate indicators. One is the growth of tool manufacturers, particularly with respect to hand tools. Not only are boutique producers thriving, but companies such as Lee Valley and Lie-Nielson are moving from strength to strength, and the fact that other companies (e.g. Stanley) are moving into the lower-end market in a big way suggest there are plenty of customers. Unless we’re in a bubble – which we won’t likely know for another ten or fifteen years – then it would appear that the craft is thriving.

Secondly, woodworking may be part of a larger movement: the rejection of mass-production and standardization that started in the fifties. Look at the proliferation of micro-brewers all over the country for those who don’t want to drink watery beer. Here in Southwest Michigan, every little town has a farmers market because there is a demand for quality, locally-grown produce instead of the tasteless stuff that comes from California and Mexico. In the case of furniture, while there will always be a market for mass-produced pieces, there is also a reaction to the “Ikeazation” (sorry) of the marketplace. For some people, that means making your own.”

Keith“You guys wondered about the origins of Handworks 2013. The following excerpt is from Joel’s Tools For Working Wood blog: The one person who made a big difference? My hat’s off to Jameel Abraham of Benchcrafted, who came up with the idea for Handworks, organized the show, did all the heavy lifting, waited around for booth cargo to both arrive and depart, paid for the forklift, the list goes on. Jameel – We can’t t hank you enough for all the work you did to make Handworks 2013 such a rousing success!!!!”

Woodchuck“On one of the recent woodtalk shows you guys we discussing how hard it is to setup a lock mitre bit. This is a link from Infinity Tools with a solution. Infinity’s Lock Miter Master Jig Set“.


Question from Mariah about Japanese chisels, and I invited fellow woodworker and blogger, Wilbur Pan, on to the show to help us address her question. So here’s a quick segment featuring Wilbur Pan.Japanese Chisel Set

I have a dust collection upgrade in my future. At the moment I have one of those Rockler 1hp DC for the the whole shop. It’s a small shop and it does ok. Space is an issue. I also have a festool 36dc with a dust deputy on top.

My question is this: what machines do you think the Festool DC can handle other than the Festool hand tools? Could you get away with a couple of Festool collectors instead of a larger cyclone on a band saw? Mitre saw? Or even a Table saw Even for a while?Chris

I have some 1 1/4″ cherry boards (already milled) someone gave me that has slots already routed for a sliding dovetail on one side of each board. I know that when you mill you have to take equal passes on each side to relieve stress in the wood to avoid cupping. I would like to plane down the side with the sliding dovetail which will leave the boards 3/4″ thick which I need for a table top. Do you know if i can take a couple of passes on the sliding dovetail side a week and sticker and let the boards sit without it cupping or are the boards eventually going to cup because it isn’t going to get milled on each side?Keith

I make mid-century styled coffee tables and what I do now is buy furniture grade plywood of whatever species the client wants. What I’m thinking of doing, though, to save money, is using a baltic birch substrate and then veneer the top. My question is what is the best method of attaching the veneer? And what is the best glue to use? I’ve looked at this website to build a vacuum press: www.joewoodworker.com

Is this a good direction to go, or should I just rig up some clamping system and use some good old wood glue?Dusty

***SUGGESTIONS – Unibond800, urac-185, DAP weldwood (Urea formaledehyde) at www.veneersupplies.com***

I recently started mixing my own finishes and had a question about storing the unused portions of these concoctions. For example when mixing Varnish, BLO, and Mineral Spirits; what do you do with the leftover finish? Throw it away or store it for later? If you store it, what is your method of storage (i.e. mason jar) and is there a way to determine the shelf life for these home brews?Scott

I’m from ireland and live in NY now for the last 8 years for work. When i was in Ireland i was a hobbyist woodworker making furniture and Hurlys (its an irish sport played with a stick kind of a mix between a hockey stick and a lacrosse stick). They are strictly made from Ash. In ireland there is one type of ash but in my research so far I’ve come across loads of different types here (mountain,green,black,narrow leaf and so on)

Can you tell me which type would have the best characteristics for a sporting use. it has to be air dried and rely flexibly for the best results. I can’t seem to find any source online for ash for baseball bats which i would think would be the same. P.S. my wife hates all three of you guysPaul

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